29 August 2009

love - sex & discrepancies...

This is one of the special post in this, my personal blog as it is going to be co-authored by my friend 'ganesh'.

I am a 'platonic' lover (in his words) & he is a 'matter of fact' lover (in my words). We run across each other at some points but never did converge at an end!

I said 'love is the thing which binds you within yourself & with every other thing in the world'

He has a slightly different opinion though.
Ya i do. Hi.!! Ganesh
here. My definition of "Love towards an X":-> It is a mad inexplicable permanent attraction towards that X where X can be anything - your puppy, a person, gold, money, painting, music, physics, cars whatever. The following is my view point about the subset of this general case namely "Love towards a person"; In general, Love towards the 'opposite sex alone' has sexual desire at its base. i.e, There are some apparently platonic lovers who claim that just the memory of their lover is enough. A smile from her is a boon to be cherished for a million years; No sensual connection enters the scene, they swear. Ah Crap! If that's the case why can't they love a person from the same sex?!- (A careful read would make you understand that this is totally different from Homosexuality which has a sensual link. ) If you carefully observe, most of these so-called platonists would be having an opposite-sex lover only.

Back to Gokul..

I am not explianing more of my side now...
Both have some points supporting our theories & here, we are going to share our views inorder to reach a more acceptable idea about 'love'.

Before that we need your help!
Nothing big but to 'define love'. We want it to be in your words and not those of some dead men, which is quoted all over the world in books & magazines. Just tell us what you think is the defining quality of love.

Once we get idea about other people's perception of love, we would post our final draft.
So click comment & post your definition.

13 comments:

Rauf said...

A sense of belonging.

Love for country: Why do you love your country despite its shortcomings? Because its yours. Similarly u can give so many examples.

But one should be careful in judging whether it is love. In case of your hot GF u may not love her but still like her for her looks/attitude etc. Could be mere sexual attraction. That doesn't mean u end up in bed though. Attraction is one thing and having guts to do the 'thing' is another.

Love is not always about the good feeling u have towards a person/thing. Your best buddy for instance. For ex i hate most of the characters of my friend. keep scolding and fighting all the time. but still she's MY friend and we coexist.MY bike. I hardly maintain it, use it very badly. But WTf! I love it bcos its mine..

Unknown said...

love is giving may be..well love can be xpressed towards everything..as u rightly said..car,gold,money,pup..everything.We just cant restrict ourself to LOVe only our Gf'z or BF'z..quite an honest attempt there..Its all abt being selfless,unconditional and true!

Parth said...

madhu on my side!! :D

Parth said...

@Abdul
Firstly, 'belonging' is ill-defined. Second, there are millions of cases where people hate their country, friend, spouse and bike!

Black Light said...

wait parth... there is no universal definition for love & hence everyone has the right to have their own definition.

There cant be any 'ill defined' things in life... ;)

Parth said...

There is no universal love, alright. But that doesn't mean the definition cannot be universal too!
And i said ill-defined because his definition of Love included a new term Belonging which he didn't explain. For instance, a terminally ill patient's body belongs to him. And that's the last thing he loves. Flabs in the stomach of an obese guy belongs to him. But that doesn't mean he loves it. The matter lies in the phrase "sense of belonging" which is actually a consequence of love and not the definition of it.

Rauf said...

parth dude.. one cannot define love like scientific definitions.. infact ur argument only makes it clearer.. u said its a consequence of love.. great point.. I think more than the need to define love we all need to know if we love something at all... so if we can define the consequences of love we'll know wat we want.. and i dont believe one cant define love at all.. this forum will ultimately end in each one posting their opinions and refining/changing it through arguments and counter arguments..

u might wanna check this too

http://clickbharathi.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-is-love.html?showComment=1251171768950#c3863324020264242352

Parth said...

Definitions are rigid. But they needn't contain rigid elements. "the mad inexplicable" part of the definition gives a lot of freedom to play "inside" it.
For instance, Conservation of mass-energy is satisfied everywhere; yet it doesn't stop electrons from flowing around as they wish baffling physicists. Thats the beauty.

Rauf said...

dude wats ur point

workhard said...

Love is confusing... there is no definite description of love in my dictionary..

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Parth said...

My point is that there is a rigid definition and i have also stated what i think is a fairly rigorous definition of Love.

"I think more than the need to define love we all need to know if we love something at all."
This deosn't make sense. How can you do something without knowing what it is that you are doing.? Remember I am not talking about 'Why'; but 'what'.

Black Light said...

@Parth
"what i think is a fairly rigorous definition"

Now thats the problem... A definable quantity is one which can be defined universally (or atleast within its bounds)

But love is just a belief(like god). Your definition will suits you but not the next person to you!

"How can you do something without knowing what it is that you are doing.? "

Well we can... Infact we are... We dont understand much of our acts!

"I am not talking about 'Why'; but 'what'."

Its easy to say why people love rather than saying what is love...

To be continued...
:)

Parth said...

you can shade a circle, rigidly defined, in infinitely many ways.

courtesy:BEML test :D